well if you actually knew the people, you wouldn't be giving this sort of comment. I told you it wasn't the problem in what you think it is. They just didn't know what they want, and couldn't explain or come to an actual idea of what the need exactly to represent them. I don't need any criticism about my art I know my good and bad sides, you just got that all out of topic, so please don't bother anymore.. It's about the art in here remember? About the art only.